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Just saw this — I posted a different take on the same problem the same day (git-native-issue, commits instead of files). Two independent projects converging on refs/issues/ is good signal.

The markdown files approach gives you grep/ag/rg search for free, which is a real advantage. And the repo-prefix + sequential ID scheme is definitely more memorable than UUIDs for daily use.

A couple of questions after reading the code:

- With a single refs/issues/latest branch for all issues, what happens when two contributors work offline on different issues and then push? Seems like it would produce a merge even though the issues are independent, does that cause friction in practice?

- On the ID scheme: gen_repo_id() generates 6 chars from a 22-letter alphabet. Two clones getting the same prefix is unlikely but not impossible. Have you considered what happens if it collides?

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Cool, just looked at git-pad. Same day, different data models for the same problem. Independent convergence is a good signal.

On why empty commits: this started with Linus's 2007 rant about wanting "a git for bugs." I took it literally, how far can Git's existing primitives go without introducing anything new? No files, no JSON, no database. Just commits, refs, and trailers.

The mapping: issues are append-only event logs (create -> comment -> edit -> close). Git is an append-only content-addressable store. Each commit is an event. The ref tip is current state. Trailers carry structured metadata in the same format as Signed-off-by:. Merge commits handle divergence. The entire Git toolchain works out of the box — log, rev-list,interpret-trailers, GPG signing, refspecs.

The implementation is a proof of concept though. What I really care about is ISSUE-FORMAT.md as a standalone format spec. Most of the internet runs on community-agreed specifications where the spec is the contract and implementations are details. If we have a canonical issue format, Forgejo or GitKraken or whoever can build a proper UI around it. Different implementations emerge — shell, C, Rust — until we find the optimal one. The spec is the deliverable, not the CLI.

Storage: packed Git objects are comparable to SQL for metadata. The shell won't scale to 30K issues, a C implementation with libgit2 would. That's a known limitation of v1.

Timestamps: fair concern. The format is versioned (Format-Version: 1), so logical clocks can be added in a future version without breaking existing data. For v1, LWW was the pragmatic choice — keeps the spec implementable by any tool that can read Git commits.

The bridges solved a specific problem I kept hitting: migrating projects between GitLab and GitHub or Gitea(and now azure devops) while keeping issues intact. That alone justified the effort.

Curious about git-pad's file-based approach: what happens when two contributors edit the same issue file offline and then push? Standard Git merge conflict, or do you handle it at a higher level? (Haven't had time to look at the implementation code yet)

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Thanks for weighing in — git-bug is in the spec's Acknowledgments and Section 10.2 for good reason.

The DAG topology → Lamport clocks → hash ordering hierarchy is cleaner than LWW. And the signing point is shared ground, since git-native-issue uses standard commits, GPG/SSH signing works out of the box for the same abuse-resistance property.

Your "middle ground" observation — that CRDTs naturally reveal when concurrent edits happened — is the part I find most compelling. The format spec reserves a Conflict: trailer (Section 6.8) for a similar idea: flag divergent edits for human review rather than silently resolving them. The current v1 resolves everything automatically via LWW + three-way set merge. The honest gap: LWW can detect that a divergence happened (via merge-base), but it can't express the causal relationship between events the way Lamport clocks can. That's a real limitation.

The design bet is on adoption surface. The spec uses only commits, refs, and trailers primitives that any Git hosting platform or TUI already understands, with no new dependencies. My hope is that a simpler format gets more implementations, and more implementations make portable issue tracking real. But I take your point that "simpler" isn't automatically "better for users" when it comes to concurrent editing.

On interop — the spec says a bridge would be "straightforward" (Section 10.2). That's probably too optimistic. git-bug's operation log doesn't map cleanly to linear commit chains, and a lossy bridge helps nobody. Worth exploring more carefully though, if there's interest on both sides.

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Good catches, thank you.

Timestamps: You're right that the current merge uses committer timestamps (LWW), and clocks can disagree. The spec is explicit about this tradeoff — Principle 4: "Last-writer-wins over Lamport clocks." The reasoning: for issue tracking (as opposed to, say, collaborative editing), the practical risk of clock skew producing a wrong merge result is low, and when it does happen, a follow-up commit corrects it. The format is versioned (Format-Version: 1), so a future version can introduce logical clocks if production use reveals timestamp-related bugs. In 8+ months of use — including imports from multi-contributor projects (GitHub, GitLab, Gitea) — clock-skew issues haven't surfaced. I'm now adopting it in a team setting at work, which will be the real stress test for the merge heuristics.

UUIDs: In practice, users interact with 7-character short IDs (a7f3b2c). The CLI resolves abbreviations unambiguously, similar to how git log abc1234 works. Sequential IDs would require a central counter, which breaks in distributed systems.

Namespace: refs/issues/* doesn't appear in branch listings (git branch, git log --all with default config). Most Git GUIs filter to refs/heads/* and refs/remotes/*. For fetch performance with many issues, Git protocol v2 does server-side ref filtering, so only requested refs transfer. Valid concern though worth documenting.

Attachments: Agreed, that's tracked for Format-Version 2 — binary blobs in the tree object instead of the empty tree. The spec's Section 12 outlines this.

The format spec is designed to evolve. Appreciate the detailed feedback.

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Yes! git-bug is the closest prior art, I reference it in the README's Prior Art section.

Three key differences:

1. Plain Git primitives — git-bug uses CRDTs with JSON operation logs. git-native-issue uses commits as events, Git trailers for metadata (same format as Signed-off-by), and merge commits for conflict resolution. No custom serialization.

2. Standalone format spec — git-bug's "format" is whatever its Go code produces. git-native-issue ships ISSUE-FORMAT.md, a standalone specification that any tool in any language can implement. The spec is the deliverable, not the CLI.

3. Simplicity — CRDTs are powerful but overkill here. Git already solves distributed conflict resolution with three-way merge. Why rebuild that in userspace?

git-bug validated that storing issues in Git refs works. I built on that lesson with a simpler data model and a spec-first approach.

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I built git-native-issue (https://github.com/remenoscodes/git-native-issue), a distributed issue tracker that stores issues as Git commits under refs/issues/.

In April 2007, during a flame war about the Linux 2.6.21 release, Linus wrote:

"There must be some better form of bug tracking than bugzilla. Some really distributed way of letting people work together, without having to congregate on some central web-site kind of thing. A 'git for bugs', where you can track bugs locally and without a web interface."

Source: https://lore.kernel.org/all/alpine.LFD.0.98.0704290848360.99...

19 years later, nobody shipped this. 10+ tools tried (Bugs Everywhere, ticgit, git-bug, git-dit, git-appraise, git-issue). All failed for similar reasons — mostly file-based storage that breaks on merge, and no format spec for ecosystem adoption.

The core insight: issues are append-only event logs, and Git is a distributed append-only database. So I mapped issue tracking directly to Git primitives:

  - Commits = issue events (creation, comments, state changes)
  - Refs = issue identity (refs/issues/<uuid>)
  - Trailers = structured metadata (same format as Signed-off-by)
  - Merge commits = conflict resolution
  - Fetch/push = sync

Usage:

  $ git issue create "Fix login crash" -l bug -p high
  $ git issue ls -f full
  $ git issue show a7f3b2c
  $ git issue sync github:owner/repo

The architecture follows Git's own philosophy: the core only knows commits, refs, and trailers. Platform bridges (GitHub, GitLab, Gitea/Forgejo) are separate scripts that translate between APIs and git primitives. New platform = new bridge, core doesn't change.

The real deliverable is ISSUE-FORMAT.md — a standalone spec that any tool can implement. If this project dies tomorrow, the spec survives. That's the key difference from prior art: none of them produced a standalone format specification.

282 tests across 22 suites. POSIX shell, zero dependencies beyond Git for the core. Platform bridges need jq + their respective CLIs (gh, glab, or curl for Gitea/Forgejo).

Honest limitations: shell is slow with large repos (10k+ issues work but not fast). A C rewrite is on the roadmap, inspired by the path git-subtree took into contrib/.

Feedback I'm looking for: Is the format spec (ISSUE-FORMAT.md) clear and implementable? What edge cases did I miss? Would you actually use this?

Install:

  brew install remenoscodes/git-native-issue/git-native-issue
  # or
  curl -sSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/remenoscodes/git-native-issue/main/install.sh | sh

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