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reroute1
·6 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
> simply refuse all incoming calls while driving

Definitely the best course of action. Even just talking on the phone is very distracting. No way someone can have a full conversation going and still be giving the same attention to driving.
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
Mood, Affect, setting... I think these are well defined terms. That is what's meant by headspace. However it's not legal to test this in conjunction with illegal drugs, even scientifically they can't get approval in many cases.
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
The thing about that is it's hard to not have anecdotal evidence about a phenomenon when the item of study is an illegal drug. That doesn't mean there is no effect though and this one seems very logical. Also not exactly the same but you don't need to try it with schedule one psychedelics this can be noticed with things like alcohol
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
You can only focus on so many products... I don't see why it's confusing when people are upset by what they choose to focus on
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
Where is the correlation between these events and driving high being "totally a problem"
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
I disagree wholeheartedly, but even if I agreed with you that doesn't mean that this breathalyzer is a good solution:

To the points about people passing out or cops calling 911 on themselves that speaks to the incredible variety of experience people have and what someone might experience their first time with edibles. It's not comparable to the effects smoking has on regular users, and not something anyone should be doing while driving, but how do you test for that with a Breathalyzer?

Fair points but I think this testing is only about smoking? That would seem to give even less reason to support this kind of testing since it misses the most egregious cases of edibles. I think anyone would agree that people in that kind of state are in no condition to drive, but again in my experience way outside of normal usage and not something I have ever seen. If the test took that into account alright, but it seems like these breathalyzer would be detecting a far lower threshold

Edit: "Theyre working on it" when it comes to edibles....
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
Legalization does take that ability away, and to some extent this sort of enables it. The simple solution is don't drive under the influence and you will have no issues, but the arbitrary nature of these tests and what happens in real life leave me feeling less than confident this would play out fairly.
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
Actually it's still applicable regardless of legality... that doesn't change police profiling and would still adversely affect minority groups. So instead of more people of color getting arrested for marijuana possession they get arrested for marijuana dui
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
-> Many would say that any level of impaired is not ok Many would also disagree, including the law which in my state allows a BAC of up to .08 to not be charged.

In general my opinion is that .08 BAC sounds reasonable and an equivalent of MJ "could" be also. But most cases that would be a huge amount of MJ, and still doesn't relate to the effects noticed at high consumption of alcohol. IE I have never seen someone smoke so much they black out and cannot control themselves. Whereas that's happening every night people go out drinking.

My view is that there is no good way to measure this universally among all people, and MJ "impaired" driving is a non-issue compared with Drunk Driving.

Should we test people for driving on caffeiene? What about after eating too much and being sleepy? These are effects on par and just judgement calls people need to make. If the officer can smell weed\finds it then that seems appropriate and enough.

EDIT: To the points below about people passing out or cops calling 911 on themselves that speaks to the incredible variety of experience people have and what someone might experience their first time with edibles. It's not comparable to the effects smoking has on regular users, and not something anyone should be doing while driving, but how do you test for that with a Breathalyzer?

Fair points but I think this testing is only about smoking? That would seem to give even less reason to support this kind of testing since it misses the most egregious cases of edibles. I think anyone would agree that people in that kind of state are in no condition to drive, but again in my experience way outside of normal usage and not something I have ever seen. If the test took that into account alright, but it seems like these breathalyzer would be detecting a far lower threshold

Double Edit: "Theyre working on it" when it comes to edibles....
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
Maybe, but also comparing driving under the influence of alcohol with driving under the influence of cannabis is definitely not congruent.
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
maybe, but it's impossible without it
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
To be fair you can have most of this on the front end also
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
That's not necessarily true. An average could also be the peak version for many users. And if it is true, I still don't see why it's a problem, the average would still measure the peak state across all users?
reroute1
·7 ปีที่แล้ว·discuss
Is that really a problem? Couldn't you calculate an average across users and us that as the peak measurement instead.