Pixel 8 Pro owners complain about display bumps(me.mashable.com)
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Pixel 8 Pro owners complain about display bumps
https://me.mashable.com/mobile/35238/pixel-8-pro-owners-complain-about-display-bumps-google-says-there-is-no-functional-impact
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These are all over the apple watch in the right lighting. It has to do with how OLEDs are manufactured.
Really? Do you have photos? I’ve never noticed this on any Apple Watch or heard it mentioned in any review.
Quick search finds many discussions of them, e.g. https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/normal-to-see-these-bum...
Maybe, but I had at least 3 OLED phones till date, all with Samsung panels, and none had these bumps at any lighting condition, and I know because I like to peep at my displays to look for scratches.
You realize Samsung keeps the best displays for itself and gives Apple second best ones? You can see it in things like resolution, peak brightness, refresh rate etc. I thought its only HW specs, maybe it also includes similar small defects, or Apple (and Google) has simply lower acceptance threshold for this
>You realize Samsung keeps the best displays for itself and gives Apple second best ones?
You are kidding right? Do you have any sources for this?
Samsung Displays is a different company than Samsung Electronics, and just like TSMC, they build displays to order for any customers to their specs, since they're in the business of selling as many displays as possible, not catering exclusively to their sister company making phones.
They have no interest to intentionally make lower quality displays for non-Samsung customers, especially due to increased competition from the likes of BOE. Otherwise how do you explain the existence of Chinese phones like OnePlus which traditionally shipped with bleeding edge Samsung panels that had even higher brightness than Samsung's own flagships?
So if Apple's displays seem inferior in specs to the cutting edge ones in Samsung's flagship phones, it's because those are the specs Apple ordered Samsung to make knowing full well the compromises (most likely cost and other potentially unknown risky teething issues of bleeding edge OLED tech)
You are kidding right? Do you have any sources for this?
Samsung Displays is a different company than Samsung Electronics, and just like TSMC, they build displays to order for any customers to their specs, since they're in the business of selling as many displays as possible, not catering exclusively to their sister company making phones.
They have no interest to intentionally make lower quality displays for non-Samsung customers, especially due to increased competition from the likes of BOE. Otherwise how do you explain the existence of Chinese phones like OnePlus which traditionally shipped with bleeding edge Samsung panels that had even higher brightness than Samsung's own flagships?
So if Apple's displays seem inferior in specs to the cutting edge ones in Samsung's flagship phones, it's because those are the specs Apple ordered Samsung to make knowing full well the compromises (most likely cost and other potentially unknown risky teething issues of bleeding edge OLED tech)
Don’t each of the three specs listed cost battery life if you use them? Might Apple determine there is some point where they don’t want to pay for that tradeoff?
Does it have something to do with the subpixel layout? That is a major difference between manufacturers.
First things first. Hire an industrial designer to make this phone look like a modern phone, not something designed by an engineer with no aesthetic sense.
That's very relative and subjective, ie Apple users consider their devices beautiful, I personally find them a fugly cheap looking brick. I know I am a tiny minority, and that's fine. Pixel has generally OK design and there are reasons for it, no phone is perfect these days.
Yeah, but maybe steering it from uglyness towards a more attractive design wouldn't hurt the mud loving hog.
I cannot feel bumps in the indicated place on my P8P, even though I can see them under very bright oblique light.
Because they are only visible not touchable
Something visible but not tangible is a dot, not a bump.
It's a bump in the in the screen, but the screen is under the glass.
It's probably under the glass, so you can't feel it
I tried _very_ hard to see these on my Pixel 8 Pro but they don't seem to be there? Maybe I don't have the right lighting conditions.
It's likely it doesn't affect all devices, the reviewer for mashable also couldn't see them.
Not all devices have this. I have a Pixel 8 Pro that I ordered at launch and it has zero issues.
I wonder what's under there, a teardown should be able to tell. Perhaps some screw heads?
I found it! It's not screw heads but some spring contacts pushing against the (metal film) back of the display panel. Probably for grounding purposes:
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Google+Pixel+8+Pro+Screen+Repla...
Looks like the springs are so stiff they leave an imprint.
Curiously there's a whole lot more of them around the edges but those don't seem to leave imprints.
I can imagine this is annoying though. It's hard to unsee something like this. Like when you get the first scratch on your new phone.
https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Google+Pixel+8+Pro+Screen+Repla...
Looks like the springs are so stiff they leave an imprint.
Curiously there's a whole lot more of them around the edges but those don't seem to leave imprints.
I can imagine this is annoying though. It's hard to unsee something like this. Like when you get the first scratch on your new phone.
It seems like every Pixel model ends up having some weird issue.
Others have noted this.
> Every time a new Pixel phone comes out, we make a whole article summarizing all the problems people have with them. We don’t do this for any other manufacturer. Google has proven over the years that its phones simply have way more issues than others.
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-biggest-proble...
> Every time a new Pixel phone comes out, we make a whole article summarizing all the problems people have with them. We don’t do this for any other manufacturer. Google has proven over the years that its phones simply have way more issues than others.
https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-biggest-proble...
>Google has proven over the years that its phones simply have way more issues than others.
As an Android user, I simply can't touch Google's phones no more. In the last few generations, they just haven't proven themselves to be a good and consistent HW manufacturer with a focus on delivering end-user-qulity, reliability and service.
Heck, even their SW is going down the drain. The number of bugs users encounter in Google's updates they push to the pixels seem to be infuriating.
Yeah, feature wise they're great with photography and AI and all that, but how much is that worth when the phone has premium prices but cell reception quality sucks because the modem is shit, battery life also is shit because of that, and SW is hit or mis buggy, HW quality and reliability is all over the place, etc.
The best phones ever release by Google were in the days they had external partners like HTC, LG build it for them (Nexus 5, etc). Present day Google as a company just doesn't have the same level of focus and amount of fucks given on making quality phones or any other product that's snot search/ads for that matter.
All in all, you can see why so many Android users got fed up and moved to iOS over time.
As an Android user, I simply can't touch Google's phones no more. In the last few generations, they just haven't proven themselves to be a good and consistent HW manufacturer with a focus on delivering end-user-qulity, reliability and service.
Heck, even their SW is going down the drain. The number of bugs users encounter in Google's updates they push to the pixels seem to be infuriating.
Yeah, feature wise they're great with photography and AI and all that, but how much is that worth when the phone has premium prices but cell reception quality sucks because the modem is shit, battery life also is shit because of that, and SW is hit or mis buggy, HW quality and reliability is all over the place, etc.
The best phones ever release by Google were in the days they had external partners like HTC, LG build it for them (Nexus 5, etc). Present day Google as a company just doesn't have the same level of focus and amount of fucks given on making quality phones or any other product that's snot search/ads for that matter.
All in all, you can see why so many Android users got fed up and moved to iOS over time.
That's just reporting bias.
Since Google doesn't make screens, I don't see how this is their fault?
> https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-biggest-proble...
That article is from 2020. In my opinion, Pixel is the crown jewel of Android.
> https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-biggest-proble...
That article is from 2020. In my opinion, Pixel is the crown jewel of Android.
It is their duty to perform QA.
Just like how car manufacturers don't make speakers but get B&W or Bose, if those speakers are at fault, do we send the car to Bose/B&W or to the car dealership/repair centre?
Just like how car manufacturers don't make speakers but get B&W or Bose, if those speakers are at fault, do we send the car to Bose/B&W or to the car dealership/repair centre?
Good point. We need a list of the specific line workers responsible and the parents who raised them.
Quality control is what differentiates good products from bad products.
Every phone has a list of warts like this. Compare "iPhone 15 reported issues are piling up: 5 common problems we're hearing": https://mashable.com/article/apple-iphone-15-issues-bugs
It's a platform war, everyone has something they hate and if you put up an article about how "XXX sucks" they know they'll get clicks and upvotes on HN.
(FWIW: just checked my wife's 8 and I can't see any bumps, but maybe it's only certain BOM components or whatnow)
It's a platform war, everyone has something they hate and if you put up an article about how "XXX sucks" they know they'll get clicks and upvotes on HN.
(FWIW: just checked my wife's 8 and I can't see any bumps, but maybe it's only certain BOM components or whatnow)
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Sometimes people don't realise that complaining about something is actually a type of compliment.
The most newsworthy complaint about the screen is that there exists an optical illusion that causes some users to think the screen is uneven:
* When off. * Under the correct lighting conditions.
In other words, it's so close to perfect that there is that little to complain about.
The most newsworthy complaint about the screen is that there exists an optical illusion that causes some users to think the screen is uneven:
* When off. * Under the correct lighting conditions.
In other words, it's so close to perfect that there is that little to complain about.
It's a component whose sole purpose is to show you something. If an "optical illusion" hinders that purpose, then that's a defect.